Commenting is VITAL to a writing group.
It seems stupid to say, but anyone who's been in one knows this. There has to be a give and take, and you have to give if you expect to get. It's also one of the reasons people seem to loath writing groups: the feeling of always needing to comment, and never having your work commented on.
When I started the DWG, I wrote up some rules, invited in a few friends, and just assumed that everyone understood that if there was work up, you'd comment on it. Oh, yeah, there was also the fact that I'd been the only one to have been in a writing group at that point, so I was the only one who had an idea what the give and take should look like.
The result went about how you would expect: not well.
There were only four of us around that time, and three of us were getting our stuff read somewhat regularly, and one was getting left out by almost everyone, and at that point I realized I needed to create a more substantial structure. My solution was perhaps a bit overboard...
I tried to address this by coming up with a highly convoluted system where we were to all have a status of being Active or Inactive, and then there was a spreadsheet that we all had to reference, and we had to log in all of our commented stuff on a second document and note each work we'd commented on, and in turn I'd take all of this information and fill in the spread sheet so that everyone knew what works had been posted and who'd commented on each, and if they'd all done the appropriate commenting (having read and commented on a small portion of every author's work), they would then be considered Active, and only then would other people be required to comment on your work. Oh, and there was this thing that if there were authors that hadn't been Active since the last time you were Active, they wouldn't be required reading, but if they were at any time since you were last Active, they would be. And a few other complexities thrown in to try to make everything fair.
Simple, right?
Surprisingly enough, I managed to keep up this level of detail for about six months. That was when I realized that, although it was eminently fair and balanced, it was also a lot of work, and pretty overkill. See, the intent of my group was to be super low stakes (like write half a page, and read and comment on half a page of everyone's work kind of low stakes), and as such, you're not required to be active every week, or even every month. In fact, for a while, I was the only one Active for a good two month stretch. That made all that chart keeping a little silly.
After a bit of deliberating with myself, and others in the group, my final approach streamlined everything. It still revolved around the Active or Inactive system, but vastly simplified. Did you comment on all the Active Authors the previous week? Yes? Great, this week you're Active. No? Cool, then you're Inactive this week and you're work isn't required for others to read. Let everyone know on the Bulletin Board if you've done your commenting. At the end of the week, I check who did, and put them on the Active list. That's it.
I'm actually kinda proud of this system, because I don't really have to do much work to keep it going, and everyone understands where they stand and why.
And now my group has been chugging along for over a year and a half, and we technically have nine who are involved. One is basically a no-show (one of my rules is I don't kick people out, I just occasionally ask if they're still interested in being a part of the group, and inevitably, they say, "Yeah, I'll get back to it soon."), one is kind of a no-show, the majority are in and out every few weeks, and three of us are in damned near every week. I also send out Friday memes as a friendly reminder to everyone that they still belong to a group.
But this is kind of what I wanted: a sense of community, yet still a lot of flexibility, because life is hectic, and writing is hard. I wanted to create a group that would be a gentle reminder that there was a project that each of us wanted to complete, and to just keep plugging along. Because that's how writing gets done: one letter, one word, one sentence at a time.
Next time: Growing Pains
It seems stupid to say, but anyone who's been in one knows this. There has to be a give and take, and you have to give if you expect to get. It's also one of the reasons people seem to loath writing groups: the feeling of always needing to comment, and never having your work commented on.
When I started the DWG, I wrote up some rules, invited in a few friends, and just assumed that everyone understood that if there was work up, you'd comment on it. Oh, yeah, there was also the fact that I'd been the only one to have been in a writing group at that point, so I was the only one who had an idea what the give and take should look like.
The result went about how you would expect: not well.
There were only four of us around that time, and three of us were getting our stuff read somewhat regularly, and one was getting left out by almost everyone, and at that point I realized I needed to create a more substantial structure. My solution was perhaps a bit overboard...
I tried to address this by coming up with a highly convoluted system where we were to all have a status of being Active or Inactive, and then there was a spreadsheet that we all had to reference, and we had to log in all of our commented stuff on a second document and note each work we'd commented on, and in turn I'd take all of this information and fill in the spread sheet so that everyone knew what works had been posted and who'd commented on each, and if they'd all done the appropriate commenting (having read and commented on a small portion of every author's work), they would then be considered Active, and only then would other people be required to comment on your work. Oh, and there was this thing that if there were authors that hadn't been Active since the last time you were Active, they wouldn't be required reading, but if they were at any time since you were last Active, they would be. And a few other complexities thrown in to try to make everything fair.
Simple, right?
Surprisingly enough, I managed to keep up this level of detail for about six months. That was when I realized that, although it was eminently fair and balanced, it was also a lot of work, and pretty overkill. See, the intent of my group was to be super low stakes (like write half a page, and read and comment on half a page of everyone's work kind of low stakes), and as such, you're not required to be active every week, or even every month. In fact, for a while, I was the only one Active for a good two month stretch. That made all that chart keeping a little silly.
After a bit of deliberating with myself, and others in the group, my final approach streamlined everything. It still revolved around the Active or Inactive system, but vastly simplified. Did you comment on all the Active Authors the previous week? Yes? Great, this week you're Active. No? Cool, then you're Inactive this week and you're work isn't required for others to read. Let everyone know on the Bulletin Board if you've done your commenting. At the end of the week, I check who did, and put them on the Active list. That's it.
I'm actually kinda proud of this system, because I don't really have to do much work to keep it going, and everyone understands where they stand and why.
And now my group has been chugging along for over a year and a half, and we technically have nine who are involved. One is basically a no-show (one of my rules is I don't kick people out, I just occasionally ask if they're still interested in being a part of the group, and inevitably, they say, "Yeah, I'll get back to it soon."), one is kind of a no-show, the majority are in and out every few weeks, and three of us are in damned near every week. I also send out Friday memes as a friendly reminder to everyone that they still belong to a group.
But this is kind of what I wanted: a sense of community, yet still a lot of flexibility, because life is hectic, and writing is hard. I wanted to create a group that would be a gentle reminder that there was a project that each of us wanted to complete, and to just keep plugging along. Because that's how writing gets done: one letter, one word, one sentence at a time.
Next time: Growing Pains